Calvin Tilokee 0:02
Hello and welcome to the midlife crisis podcast. I’m your host Calvin, also known as Revparblems on Instagram. I’m excited to do this talk show with my best friends from high school and college. Steven Mikko, what can you expect on this podcast? Well, I like to call it a talk show for Men of a Certain Age. We’re not quite old. But we’re the kind of guys that have to make sure we don’t miss our alcohol on a night out, you know, we’ll chat about current events, trending topics, and things that we just need to get on our soapbox about knowing else. We’ll be laughing the whole time. And ladies, don’t worry. If you ever wanted to know what your husband or boyfriend talks about in the man cave. Stick around. And now keep in mind, we’re old enough to remember when Parental Advisory stickers went on CDs. We don’t know what CDs are. You’re too young for this podcast. Speaking of which, make sure you have your headphones in. It’s NSFW as these kids say. We’ll be bringing that flavor to your weekly on your way to work while you’re shaving. Or just sitting around wondering lay it backwards. But let’s get this show on the road.

Hello, and welcome to the midlife crisis podcast. I’m your host Calvin here as always with the homie Mikko, bringing that flavor to you here on a weekly basis. Today, we’re just talking about moving my big move from East Coast to West Coast. Mikko was moved all around the world. So we’re going to just compare some stories about that. Of course we got all your favorite segments. I don’t know that shit. I don’t like that jerk. And as always get off my lawn. But first, how was the offseason we go? First time we chatted in like a month.

Mikko Miller 1:36
Yeah, you know what? It’s kind of strange.

For the last couple of months, you just get used to recording like, you know, Sundays and Mondays. Then even my wife was just like, Kate, Monday. What the hell you’re doing? Like, what do you mean? Like, have I mean that in the garage? I’m like, oh, we’re not recording for like a couple of weeks. You’re like, oh, and she misses the loud laughter she missed Yeah, she said

she could always tell we’re having a good time whenever we do our live because of how loud we laughs huh It’s strange. I think we were gone for like, what is it four weeks? Yeah, yeah, probably a good month. Yeah, so it was just strange but you know what? Now we’re back. Now we’re ready to get you going? We got video apparently.

Calvin Tilokee 2:25
Video For those of you who are getting this audio feed the regular episode we were live on youtube and facebook right now. So yeah, check us out going forward. This is what you’re gonna see you get to see our ugly mugs live and don’t

Mikko Miller 2:42
get to see what it looks like were we given all this hot content and these hot takes exactly so you know gotta watch out right?

I know my teeth now shave properly you know I got the glasses on today but you know usually to get the context going. You know I we got to make sure we look good.


Yeah, man. But this had you for weeks or weeks. We’re busy bro. Like this moving is about 10 times as hard as people tell you it is for both of us. And we were lucky. Right? So it was a relocation. We had helped like people came in, packed up all our stuff. They boxed it up. They put on the truck. We didn’t touch it until it got here. They put it all in the rooms and everything for us. But somehow this shit still kick my ass man. Really?

Calvin Tilokee 3:33
Yeah, I remember when we were packing up my apartment, right? We didn’t have to do anything that we literally just ended up telling them what gets packed, what doesn’t get packed. And I was still stressed out. I don’t know what was stressful about it. But I was making me while anxious. I’m just staying there looking at other people work. And I was stressed out. So then everything. I mean, I haven’t seen that apartment empty. And I think 15 years I lived there. You know, like I got there a few months before, before my wife did. So I lived there for maybe three or four months by myself. Just me and my dog. And it was like, I haven’t seen that shit empty since then. It was it was weird. But then, you know, cool, we get on a flight. get ahead to LA lived in a hotel for the first two weeks, which was pretty sweet hotel Figaro a shout out to them. They gave us a nice sweet so we had some space wasn’t too bad actually. But um, you know, it was like every day back and forth shuttling to the house, back to the hotel, you know, oh, we get into delivery, boom, I got to go to pick it up, set it up, come back to the hotel work, whatever. And just the passing back and forth was was tiring. Like you don’t realize how tiring driving is. And so you do that shit all day. So, you know, shout out to Uber drivers

sort of submission all day, right? You think oh, sit in your ways and drive it in or whatever that shit is fucking fatiguing.

You gonna be

Feeling it by the end of the day but yeah man I mean we finally last week so everything showed up like a week and a half ago all the boxes here and my wife counted was 352 boxes of stuff and we moved we moved out of an apartment so I don’t even know where to help we amass all the shit

I have no idea where we got all the ship from but yeah so she was like opening and loaded throw in a box into the back yard I had to because you have to break you got to break down all the boxes they got to be flat and like bundled so trash or pick it up so I’m like you know I got nice at the box cutter

Mikko Miller 5:42
right this

dude yeah man yeah

Calvin Tilokee 5:48
yeah and then yeah he just folding all these boxes whatever. And then I look I got the stupidest looking farmer’s tan you’ve ever seen

I looked like

I looked like a Frankenstein action figure. So a might happen might happen my head and neck is this one color right guy got nice and dark my arms from like the mid bicep down nice and Carmel the rest quite as fuck.

Quite as fun. It’s like yeah, I should It’s crazy. I was like let’s be in the backyard doing your work shirtless just to try to like get this shit to even out a little bit. You know what that won’t even work as the dark parts it just get darker and then the white part says get tan

I might have to wait like I was in shooting sleeve on just on the

cover that’s

Mikko Miller 6:43

got to do like their strategy. Yeah, that’s just crazy but yeah, so but this last weekend

Calvin Tilokee 6:54
it’s just good time because my wife’s birthday fell in the middle of all it is the day our stuff arrived with actually her birthday. So they didn’t get to do much but you know, we took we just took a little staycation last weekend went up to Newport Beach Resort There you go. Yeah, that was it was everything is worked out good time and like everything was done was like okay, we can go kick it for a couple of days and just relax so definitely turned out well back back in the group you know perfect time to come back on the show we all rejuvenated and rested and ready right oh, I don’t even know my tie on shit, man.

Mikko Miller 7:35
I got my work uniform on and shit. Let’s go let’s let’s let’s get a good finish. But Pelican Hill, my wife and I are actually thinking about it’s funny that you mentioned that during a staycation out there too, because their villas are fucking beautiful man. And yeah, the view Newport coast is just gorgeous. You know, it was really nice, man. You know, what was crazy. The craziest thing for us was like, usually, if we’re in a place like that with this kind of weather and be able to go to the beach, like we went whale watching. We usually got to get on a flight here. So for us, it was it was a little bit of a mindfuck because it was like an hour and 20 minute drive from home. And you’re doing stuff like that. It was like wait a second. This Yeah, we’re bad. Like usually I gotta get on a flight to do something like that. So it’s gonna take some adjusting to be to know that all of that is like right there. Yeah. Which is cool. So

Calvin Tilokee 8:34
yeah, man, what’s tight now baby? See ya see all those will see the video represented with the LA Fitness. Y’all saying I had to let them know that selling out early. Okay.

Mikko Miller 8:50
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don’t even refer to fucking dodges. I just like to happen. Like

Calvin Tilokee 8:58
I just get I’m not even really into baseball. But you know, you know if if you know Yankees in the playoffs a guy gotta roll with it roll with the Yankees. I’m still in New Yorker. You know, of course, that’s actually what I was saying yesterday with my my two tone tan here and the means like the I’m still New York in my heart and then the outside is LA.

Mikko Miller 9:18
Literally. Exactly.

Calvin Tilokee 9:24
Yeah, I’ll tell you one of the first things I notice about out here.

I mean, everybody tells you about the traffic. Right? Right. And it’s some is something you got to really see to behold.

I mean, I knew it was gonna be bad, everybody but world told me no LA LA traffic traffic. Okay, so I know what it is you Google you know how long it’s gonna take you and then you deal with it right? But it’s not until you sit in that shit where you’re just like, Yo for real. These lanes are fucking six lanes wide on the highway and it’s still traffic. Why?

Mikko Miller 10:01
many cars, man.

Calvin Tilokee 10:03
Yeah, yeah, you got it. Tim, you’re the local guy. You gotta you gotta give me the scoop on why to focus so much traffic.

Mikko Miller 10:12
Oh, no mind that alarm. Damn, you can tell we’ve been out of

out of the live alarm ringing and not even here. Oh, everybody has fucking cars, man. I mean, every household I think the average is like four cars a household.

You know, the mom, the dad, you know the two kids, they all have cars and they all get on the fucking road. Nobody takes family trip. Nobody takes carpool. Even though we have carpool lanes. Most of that shit is like people are like the one that don’t want to be late for work. So it’s just a single person. Right?

Calvin Tilokee 10:46

It’s just gonna blow up though.

Mikko Miller 10:53
I got a funny story about that to

a lady I used to work with. I’m just gonna state it as that lady I used to work with, she would have her like a little stuffed doll in the back. And her husband had passed away. So she would claim that her husband spirits lived through that doll and it allowed her to the carpool lane.

That you pulled over. Thank God. Thank god she never got pulled over. But that would have been her excuse. My husband’s back. He died like a year ago. But he’s

Calvin Tilokee 11:27
still here spirit.

Mikko Miller 11:30
Taxi Driver. Exactly. There’s just too many cars in LA man. It’s just you know, New York has public transportation. Everyone’s big on public transportation. If you look around here, we really don’t have unless you’re in downtown LA. No one really uses that shit here. Everyone’s fucking drives. Hmm. Which is kind of sucks. You get out to Orange County. It’s not so bad. But la where you’re at by the airport. Oh my god. It’s a fucking nightmare. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it is what it is like I it doesn’t bother me too much. Because it’s like, again, I came in knowing it was going to be shitty. So you know, whatever. One thing I will say though.

Calvin Tilokee 12:13
yaalon. Much nicer on the roads out here. Like much nicer. Oh, yes. Yes. Dude, in New York City had this kind of traffic. There’d be mass shootings every day,

every fucking day. And I’ll need to make light of mass mass shootings. But this should listen. I don’t know for you New Yorkers who may not be able to picture this right? See in New York, the only time we got traffic like that there’s an accident or this construction. Right here. The traffic be for absolutely no reason.

Absolutely no reason. You’ll sit in traffic for 20 minutes. And then it’ll just start moving. me like no car, no police, no construction, no accidents, just movement. And I think you know, my wife was saying it seems like because you have a lot of interchanges out here like every highway connects to the next one. So it’s like when people got emerge? Oh, yeah. It just creates that congestion. But at least here like that an Asian woman drivers.

stereotype for a reason. Exactly. Maybe a tiny reason? No.

Yeah, but like, especially when I first got here, right? Like you’re always in a wrong lane. Like I get on? Oh, yeah. You know, whatever highway and then it’s like, oh, shoot, I gotta go all the way to the left. And here, like, if you indicate people will let you in. Not in New York for the most part, for the most part. But yeah, for the most part, and was it. Like I said, the first three weeks, I was literally going back and forth from the house from downtown LA to LA x. Two, if not three times a day, back and forth. So I spent a lot of time on these roads already.

And I don’t only had one experience, that was negative one.

Okay, and that was right here. Right, right by the house. So I’m making a left to get onto my street, right. And there’s no left turn signal, right? So it’s just like a regular green light. So I’m at the green light. And cars come in oncoming traffic, so and so on, but I didn’t move. I’m like, what’s the point but it’s not it’s not all that hectic around here. Once they pass I’ll be able to go. Right so somebody beats the horn at me and again out here is like, that shit doesn’t happen. Really? People don’t honk at you. So I look in the rearview and I’m like, I’m like a local already. What the fuck is wrong with this guy?

So then I go back to look at the traffic beeps again. I was like, What the fuck? So now I look and he look and I can say to them I’m from New York. He looked like one of them Haitian cabbies that you’re getting to study. That’s exactly what we looked like. So in my head, I’m like, Okay, he’s not from here. Can’t be because literally no one has done this so far. So I’m alright.

So now just do figure he gonna go around so he’s going to go into the into the through lane to try to stop making the left and then of course my i mean i’m just i’m a New Yorker right so that New York DNA is just there I said no hell no this month is not going to happen so I start pulling up the blog so we’re doing this you know pull up block engine game all the way into like the second lane of oncoming traffic but nobody’s coming I just keep blocking like you’re not getting around me. Like Don’t let these license plates fool you though that was a rental. I am not from here. Okay.

I know I know how to get right down in the muck with gel with this bullshit do not do that play yourself. So I was like mad is that once that’s the only thing that’s happened since opinion. There’ll be more I promise they’ll tell you

Mikko Miller 15:55
you know your experience isn’t gonna be maybe like rude drivers. It’s gonna be like

you hit the turn signal and then fuckers will speed up so that you can’t go into the next lane like they’ll do that bullshit here. You get that if people from the carpool lane going all the way to the exit lane with like

Calvin Tilokee 16:16
100 yards to go to try to make it I seen that shit on the way to Newport the other day somebody did that because we were in the carpool lane those three of us so we good and so I guess he missed the exit he missed the point where they allow you to come out and yeah, it was like 100 feet to the eggs he’s like

Mikko Miller 16:34
like moving across like Frogger like that’s even that’s nice usually you get more fun to just go like fucking 45 degrees and just take off you know what I mean? Or they do this dumb shit where they pass the exit I think I told you this on one of my my one of my rants they pass the exit the nickel reverse on the media and then exit Yeah, which is bullshit.

Calvin Tilokee 16:59
Well, what I’ll say what I will say is I’ve noticed I mean only it’s only a couple days I was in OC, but it’s different in Orange County where you are up here I can tell you just my personal experience so far. If if you’re stuck in traffic and you’re in the wrong lane, you indicate nine times out of 10 people will let you in nobody sped up nobody’s done that kind of bullshit. They actually will stop and let you in. Oh see? I was there for three days I had that should happen to me. Oh yeah, it was indicated come in this jackass. Let’s speed it up. And I’m like, Yo, what the hell then he’s honking the horn at me. People like to like tailgate you they all up my ass. I’m like dude, if you want to just just ask me for right okay.

Mikko Miller 17:41
Just give me some gas buddy and hop in the backseat if you won’t be that fucking close. Yeah, that’s how it is and I don’t maybe you’re right because la probably has more people that are used to traffic and so they know lane and courtesy and all that stuff. Here you got motherfucker that probably just paid for the license didn’t even take the test just paid someone and get a license. And you can tell they just drive they don’t know. You know? You had a four way intersection. whoever’s going straight as the right away. If everyone stopped at the same time, whoever’s going straight it’s the right away to whoever’s making a right turn at the right away. You know more folks want to make a left turn right away and just fucking shit up. means like, basic rules that a row people don’t fucking know here, so. Yeah, but Welcome to Cali, bro. Yeah, man.

Calvin Tilokee 18:29
I would show that but yeah, yeah, dude. So let’s see, you know, a couple things happened since last time we recorded um, typically, I would save this for I don’t like that jerk. But because it’s been such a long time. I got a few of them. So we just make this a regular, you know, which we just talk about this on the show. Um, Paul, let’s go. Let’s uh, let’s talk about poor people as dumb as How about we do that? So for those of you, those of you who may not know, I have a little bit of a rant on this on my on social media because Paul Pierce, who used to work for ESPN, who y’all may or may not know is owned by Disney, as in Mickey fucking mouse, and cartoons and fairy tales and all this other shit. He decides on the weekend. He’s going to have a party, this house, smoking weed, and having exotic dances at the house. Now, there’s nothing really wrong with that.

Except for two reasons. Two major reasons. I’ll let y’all distinguish which which one is more important? Number one, he’s married.

Number two, he went on Instagram Live and decided to put this out there to the world.

So unsurprisingly, he lost his job.

A couple days later, he’s lucky he didn’t get fired, right?

right away because it was on the weekend. So they said a big on Friday on Monday. That’s one message. Maybe I’ll let you come to work and then tell you.

Mikko Miller 20:08

Um, yeah. Jesus. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that one, bro?

Well deserved, I guess. I mean,

we’re all adults. At a certain age, you start to understand what’s right, what’s wrong. When you work for Disney, right? You work for Disney. Assuming you work for Disney, if I worked for Disney, I probably wouldn’t cuss as much. I’d be careful about my image. You know, I’d be careful about how I you know, walk through life because I’m representing Disney through ESPN.

I’m married. I have to act a certain way. There’s certain things I can and can’t do. Three. If you can do that shit.

Why go on Instagram Live? Why have a party? smoke out? Drink out. Enjoy a little strip, you know, dancers, entertainment, right? escorts whatever whatever they are.

But do it in the privacy of your own home do it without?

I don’t know why after he has millions of followers, right? I think he has. I can’t remember what his number was. Why would you want to share that with your millions of followers? Knowing Disney’s gonna find it knowing people that hate you. I’m going to use that as ammo to get your ass fired. And it’s just fucking dumb.

Yeah, it’s fucking dumb.

Yeah, I mean, that’s that’s pretty much pretty much sums it up. I mean, I think number one it kind of speaks it is whole culture right? of people needing to put everything on social media. Right? Listen, like everything. No got to be out there. Right. You know? Even if, say for a second you forgot or you you put aside this whole thing about about the about the job, which I’m going to get to in a second. Okay, but

Calvin Tilokee 22:05
you’re married man. You got kids? Even if it’s not well, is that really the best look? Is that what you want to put out there to the world? Right? Nothing wrong with smoking weed you live in Cali is legal. Okay, right. You know what? Nothing wrong with it. You’re exotic dancers. There was like a big, big poker game. Apparently. It’s everybody was hanging out poker, a smoking, smoking weed cigars. They had the girls around. Listen, nothing wrong with any of that. You’re a millionaire. Do what you want your grown ass man. Right?

Even if you still had the same job. Yep. Just don’t put it on fucking social media and you would have been fine. Exactly. Exactly. You know, you don’t have to put everything out there. Everybody don’t got to know everything. You’re doing.

Everything aid for everybody. You know. But going back, obviously, the major thing here is is the job aspect of it. And you wouldn’t believe or you probably would you believe that? The amount of fucking idiots who are out there, slamming ESPN for firing him

saying that, yo, yo, you know, he on his personal times. Last time I checked, he’s a grown man, he could do what he wants Dora. And it’s like, yo, when uh, when are people going to get it?

I don’t understand. Yeah, I guess if you if you think that you just will never get it. And you know what, just good luck to you. Because you’re gonna go through a lot of jobs, make sure to purchase a ladder, a lot of stuff paper, so you can print your resume, because you’re going to have a lot of applications interviews to go on. I mean, that Dogecoin up.

But it’s not only fans or something. Exactly. Because

you go need money, bro. I mean, it was really mind boggling to me how many people are sitting here advocating and saying, Oh, you know, he’s a grown man and this and that data? And that’s like, Guys, and of course because of what I do. And you know, I take an interest in people you know, building a career and I spoke out about it on on my self help page, the the G spot

the G’s for growth. Does it case anybody? Yeah. Um, yeah. I mean, you definitely gotta have you gotta have some growth before you find the G spot typically. But anyways, that’s right. Anyway.

You know, I had to I had to speak on it because I hate watching people wasted careers of thumb shit like that. Right? And

the point I was trying to get across is listen, your your personal life isn’t your personal life like that. Now when you put it on social media, alright, and people seem to think that if you’re off

Yes, your day off, you can do whatever you want. You kind of can’t just don’t put it out there for everybody to see. Right? Right, right. I mean, I agree.

Nothing really is wrong with what he did that’s between him and his wife. Right? If maybe they’re cool like that. Maybe they have one of them relationships where I listen, you are with the boys do whatever you want. Okay, but if the whole world didn’t see if he would have still had a job, and the differences and where people I think, fuck it up is like these guys on Twitter who think that Oh, it’s cool. And he spends that he can afford to lose that job. Let’s not forget for peers played in the league for a long time. He’s a millionaire. Right? He can afford to lose a job. He’s cool today. This happened, what three weeks ago? He’s fine. Your dumb ass can’t afford to lose it.

So don’t don’t do that. You can’t afford to lose your job.

Mikko Miller 25:56
Not only dumb shit like that. You know, not not not over. You know, hoes in different area codes partying in your pool. Like,

you know, it’s hard to justify

as a married man having strippers, or even if it was a poker party.

Yeah, we ain’t got it like that. To have wives that are okay with shit like that. You got to have money for your wife to be okay with shit like that. Right? Or a very, very open relationship. Right? Yeah, ordinary people. You know, you’re going to lose your job. You’re gonna get divorced.

Hmm. And you probably be shamed into not making any type of public appearance anymore if you post it on social media. So why ruin all of that? Thinking that you know, you’re gonna go show some clown and say, Oh, I got strippers. I got all of these things. I agree with you, Paul Peters. You know, you’re not sitting on like, you know, $23 million in NBA contract money. You’re not sitting on that. You know, you probably make 50,000 and you lose your job and be crying about it. Now, Paul Pierce, he’s living it up. He don’t need ESPN.

That was a gig for him. Not a career. Right? You know what I mean? Exactly. He doesn’t need that money. And he does. He’s a fucking

Calvin Tilokee 27:18
after a double digit year career in the NBA, you need to go on ESPN and be an analyst for the money. You have more up. I don’t think he’s that.

But then again, just my fucking did just go live with strippers in the backgrounds.

Mikko Miller 27:35
I mean, Iverson went broke. You know, a lot of people

can’t manage your money if you got boys that are. But Paul Pierce doesn’t seem No, I’m not shitting on Allen Iverson. Right. But Paul Pierce doesn’t seem to be the type of person that surrounded himself with the people that I was in surrounding himself with like, Legion.

Right. You know, he was a businessman, Paul Pierce was a businessman. You know, he got hired as an analyst. You know, obviously, he has a brain he has speaking skills. You know, he has the skills to be an analyst for ESPN. He’s good like that. So he doesn’t need the money. But all you guys out there.

Don’t go do it. Now. Don’t lie. I mean, live it up. If you’ve got that kind of lifestyle, live it up. Just don’t show everybody. Keep it to yourself. And on Monday morning when people ask you, how was your weekend? It was cool. I had a good time. That’s it.

Calvin Tilokee 28:28
But I’m actually glad that you brought up Iverson because he’s he’s a good example. He’s, I never liked Allen Iverson as a as a person. And I’ll qualify that by saying like, I didn’t, I mean, I don’t know him personally, but for what he represented, and that kind of mentality, I hated it. I was one was a great player, one of the best players I’ve seen in my lifetime. This is just basketball aside, this whole attitude of yo you could just do whatever you want. I’m a dress like a thug at the at the press conference and on the sideline. And then when they put in, you go so far, that they have to put in a dress code, because you’re stupid. When do rags on the sideline, the chain hanging out and all it is and then want to play the victim? You know what I mean? It’s not where it’s not cool. It’s an it’s not cool for that next generation coming up to think that you could do that because his whole thing was, yo, you know, don’t let nobody tell you how to be just be yourself that go back and Google what I was gonna look like at Georgetown.

Can you tell me the difference? The dude had a clean fade, no visible tattoos to speak of. He played the part he was you know, your straight cut corporate guy, whatever. He followed the rules. When he got his money. He started acting on say I’m gonna do whatever I want. And that’s fine. You got your money now, but and again, the same messages. Your dumb ass. Can’t do that.

Right, you’re the regular everyday average Joe with a regular job cancer, getting neck tattoos and walking up the street and getting getting your hair braided at work. And think that is going to be fine and show up to a job. And if you look in like the way he looked like at a press conference and think, Oh, you know, you’re getting a record deal. He followed the rules until he got his money, but then turned around and said, Oh, yeah, I could do whatever you want. It doesn’t work like that.

Mikko Miller 30:28
Right? You, all of you.

You or I were saying at Georgetown, you I was in a Georgetown wearing suits, wearing at least a jacket and a tie to get into a way games. JOHN Thompson wouldn’t let Iverson or anyone else deviate from the dress code so yet the follow so that you could play? That’s you? You know, you. Life is john Thompson. That’s, you know, I was sending to league.

He’s his own man making his own money making that kind of decision. Larry Brown couldn’t control him, but he could kind of but he really couldn’t. You know, but I’ve had racks and racks and racks of money. So he could make that decision. He’d be okay with it. If they kicked them under the league at that point. He had millions. He’s fine. You don’t?

You don’t exactly you got to follow the rules. Exactly. Just like 90 99% of the population. Exactly. Follow the rules. When you in that top 1% and you got your money. You got your own business, whatever you could do is say what the fuck you want. But until then,

Calvin Tilokee 31:39
stay in your lane.

Mikko Miller 31:43

Yeah, that’s crazy, dude. Paul fucking piers. Yeah, Tommy. It is what it is.

Calvin Tilokee 31:53
It’s what it is. hope hope y’all get the lesson.

But so we got you know, I think our our segments gonna be a little extended this week.

It’s been a while. It’s been a minute.

Let’s see, what should we start with this week. So we start with a

joke this week is the waiter at Jovi’s downtown LA.

All right. Now for those of you would see the live stream, you’re gonna see the meme of a guy talking to a girl in a club boring the shit out of her. Right. She’s completely uninterested. So, one night we go out to dinner. Joey’s downtown LA. I go to park my car in a parking garage. Like a block away. I entered at 6pm

Now, before we leave dinner, like no joke around 730 I was asking for the bill. Okay, this dude at the table right next to us spends a good 15 to 20 minutes flirten chat and hollering at some

some girls that work that interested? Right? Let’s just say most of them look like they were more interested in each other’s company than that of any men.

Mikko Miller 33:16
Okay, okay.

Calvin Tilokee 33:19
Part of the you know, most likely part of the alphabet group.

And just due to just the hair spitting game, or whatever he considered to be game and just wasting his fucking time and we’re sitting there like, literally five feet away. Dude, can you bring me this fucking bill? He doesn’t get us the bill until like 755 let’s just call it right. Pay to ship walk back to the parking garage. The parking garage is closed. As in the gates down, the building is closed. Apparently I parked in a building that’s like it has like corporate.

I don’t know like, like meeting space basically. So it’s kinda like it’s part residential part meeting space but play apparently leadership close at eight. So if this dickhead it just got me my check when asked for it. And stuff fucking around with his wack as game. I wouldn’t have had to spend a whole night without my car. They should have sit there overnight until they open in the morning. Okay, so I don’t like that.

Mikko Miller 34:24
Did you have to pay for that? overnight parking? Thankfully, no. When I went when I went the next day, they were like, Oh, no, you’re fine. So

Calvin Tilokee 34:38
be what they’ve got the number. It was what I was working and he was you know, like, Oh, yeah, yeah, I like to see people get numbers. I like to see people you know, whose game works on a girl. You know what game is not working? cut your losses. Exactly. It’s like Look, man, we’ve been the I know try to be no cock block. I ain’t going hate on your game. I see you. Okay, cool. Do you think

But you know, not all my time. And if you don’t do it on my time you better get the number. Exactly. Yeah, get the home run is something Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you. Fuck that guy you walk over there and get it for you should

Mikko Miller 35:16
be like the best customer slash wing man ever.

Calvin Tilokee 35:21
Like hey man, here’s another can’t get my goddamn check now Thank you. That’s your tip by the way. Yeah

Mikko Miller 35:30
if I was the waiter and the girl was fly I’d be like

I salute you

that’s worth more than 50%

especially if I don’t gotta have dry bone.

Calvin Tilokee 35:46
Got them? dry, dry rub grapes.

Mikko Miller 35:53

Mines mines a little bit more high profile. Hi, my, my jerky the week is

Elon Musk,

Mr. SpaceX, Mr. Mr. Tesla himself.

I like what he stands for. I like the innovations that he has, but he started off last week. You know tweeting about Dogecoin he’s, yes.

That guy.

He tweeted about Dogecoin about, you know, for people that don’t know Dogecoin started off as like one one hundredths of a penny and then it went all the way up to like 50 cents.

And, you know, Ilan, touted that he was gonna go on Saturday Night Live, and he’s gonna take Dogecoin to the moon, meaning he’ll get it past $1 so that he’ll help make everyone a lot of money. Huh, this fucker goes on SNL

mentions Dogecoin and the shit drops 30% in value

30 fucking percent.

Now, he coined himself as the Doge Father, father, he coined himself as taking Doge to the moon.

He coined themselves as being the guy that’s gonna push Dogecoin to be the cryptocurrency for the people.

And you talk about it in the shit drops 30 fucking percent. The fuck is wrong with you? Like, the last time he did this? It dropped 15 20% this time it dropped 30% Stop fucking talking about it already. I had money. Um, I’ve been fortunate to get Dogecoin when it was five cents a share. Okay, and, you know, I hopped on the train and I was like, okay, Ilan musk. Saturday Night Live millions of people worldwide.

It’s gonna hit $1 if it’s $1 I’m living rich, right?

He gets on Saturday Night Live and it drops 30 fucking percent. So, Mr. Musk.

Stick that up your ass.

You did the opposite of what you said.

So I don’t like that.

Calvin Tilokee 38:14
muskie, mother.

Mikko Miller 38:22
Come on, man. Like how you 30% of the value of a coin that you said that you were gonna take to the moon and you are the biggest proponent of it. You and Mark Cuban. And when Cuban talks about it, it goes up. When you talk about it, it goes down. I mean, 30% is a big value. I mean, you went from having, like people, I think

people about $1,000 when it was like, point one hundreds of a penny.

had like a million dollars or 100,000

How do you lose 30 fucking $1,000 off of like one episode and one bad joke on Saturday Night Live. Yeah. Fuck you, dude. cost me some money.

I know. Are you in Doge? Are you in that shit? No crypto. Nah, nah, I will tell you though. I did. I didn’t fuck around with that game stuff.

Calvin Tilokee 39:16
I did I never I never I haven’t really gotten into trading or stocks very much. It’s something I want to do a lot more but I haven’t but I did talk about that game stuff. I got I got hype. So all the shit on Twitter on Reddit and I was like, Okay, yeah, let me see cuz I was like, I know these nerds are gonna like you know, push it like these guys. We’re just gonna do it these Reddit or so. But I got on it madly. I got on it when I was like, already 300 Oh, so I bought like I want like two shares. I wasn’t allowed, like two shares. And then then that should start going down.

And I was just hoping to break even. So it’s okay.

Let me let me let me set my thing. So like if I get to break even to sell, be out just be done with this shit. Then it started sort of going up again. So I think I think what happened is I set that like at the close. So it opened the next day at like over $400. So I got Okay, there so I ended up making like a couple 100 bucks, and I just cashed out at that point. I was like, Okay, cool. But I was joking around. I think that’s literally the only trading I’ve done. So I was like, Yo, I must I must stop the webinar. Like Listen, how did the How to have 100% success rate

Mikko Miller 40:37
trading, you know, ask me for my tips. That’s actually on my get off my lawn.

Okay, let’s get off my love segment. You know, people that I like made a couple of 1000 off of crypto and and wanting to be an expert at it.

We’ll get to that in a little bit. We’ll get to that in a little bit.

Calvin Tilokee 40:59
Okay, okay. Cool. But now it’s time for.

You want to host the one meet hosts. You host it? All right. Let me see. Let’s see daily trivia. I’m a Google That’s right. Now we get okay. Getting live. trivia question here for I don’t know that shit coming out of the coming out of the break.


Okay, this one, this one kind of pertains to you.

Okay, you won’t, you won’t know it, but it’s food related. Okay. You might know if you and if you do, I will be you won’t be as well.

What is the medical term for having a runny nose after eating something spicy?

Mikko Miller 41:58
Like a taxi or whatever. It’s like a

bloody nose or whatever. But I don’t know what a runny nose is because she ate some fucking spicy. So what is it? The answer is gustatory rhinitis. God bless you.

Calvin Tilokee 42:16
The word gustatory relates to how something tastes while the word or night is suggests an inflammation of the mucous membrane in the nose. Certainly for right now nine triggers. Yeah, certain foods are known triggers especially hot and spicy ones like hot peppers, garlic, salsa, and curry.

Mikko Miller 42:35
Oh, they forgot a

wasabi dude. Yeah, he knows right

it’s not It’s not spicy.

horseradish you’ll find your ship to grow the first time I had wasabi is that what wasabi is horseradish? Yeah, well kinda it’s not really red it’s a different kind of plant that they get in

I’m over here like fucking this shit up some some Japanese person or some experts can be like wrong wrong wrong wrong.

But I think it’s like a like a water type plant that they real wasabi that they like great and making that fine pace. I think what we get now is horseradish. But I don’t think they use real horseradish though. Yeah, fuck it. Let’s Google that.

We got time. Wasabi.

What is wasabi?


Actually, we can start doing that on the screen now. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, that’s crazy. Let’s see. Wasabi.

Yeah, see? It’s made from the rhizome.

What is this rhizome the light

the fluc

wasabia japonica plant.

Its signature spice comes from something that’s equal to capsaicin.

True wasabi is made from the rhizome.

Like a plant stem that grows on the ground where you would expect to see a root of the wasabia japonica Japonica plant. Yeah, that’s it. It kind of looks like ginger if you asked me. Yeah, I’ve never seen it this way. But yeah, it does. does look like it man. The first time I had wasabi I don’t know what I thought it was, but I didn’t realize it was Avi or spicy. I thought it was something else like guapa some shit. I took a heaping spoonful with that shit with some sushi boy.

Calvin Tilokee 44:32
Oh boy talk about you know rhinitis or whatever the fuck

I was running for like 45 minutes. My running my nose in front of that shit was a bit it was a bit too much for me.

Mikko Miller 44:46
No, I mean i i agree. The first time I had it. I didn’t think it was guacamole or avocado or anything like that. I just thought it was just like, like a like a salsa type thing like a fixed awesome. So I took a chip

I was like dipped in Actually no, it wasn’t a chip it was the sushi roughish shichimi Okay, I scooped it up on there Yeah. At and I was like, oh my god I started watering down my nose started running against this and I was like you’re a fucking idiot

like a little bit of it. I took like maybe like a half teaspoon. Yeah

Calvin Tilokee 45:23
yeah, that’s a lot of wasabi so

we know we don’t have we know.

Now it’s time for the favorite segment of cast and audience

yes Mikko, I’ll let you go first since yours is more pertain to what we just talked about. So

Mikko Miller 45:50
Dogecoin cryptocurrency

finance stocks day trading whatever forex trading whatever the fuck you want to call it?

Yes, people make money off of it.

Yes, some people made really good money and really solid investments. But if you’re someone is living in your mom’s basement you know yelling yelling for cookies and milk every goddamn time

Yeah, ma some milk and cookies ma

if you’re that guy and you made like

$2,000 off of Dogecoin or whatever the fuck it is. You’re not an expert.

You’re not an expert you You got lucky. You got lucky you got a hot tip from someone you put a little bit of money into it. You may have put your life savings into it $100 $200 whatever the fuck you put into it.

these fuckers Cal I swear to god they go on Instagram to start a group chat talking about here’s how you can make money like I did. He made $2,000.02 fucking $1,000 on a lucky basically a lucky bet that Dogecoin was gonna make whatever it made. You’re not a financial expert. You don’t know shit about money. You don’t know shit about trading? Like get off my lawn with that shit like what gives you the nerve to start a group? A group talking about oh this is what I did. You could do it too. You made $2,000 not 200,000 not too many you made $200,000 in your so called fucking expert. Get off my lawn with that shit.

Rocking idiots Ma Ma de Mikko.

Extra catch up Ma.

Calvin Tilokee 47:41
Like I like back in the day when you have dial up deals

or better yet when they beat like before cell phones if you use use the house phone to you know talk to talk to your friends talk to girls and your mom your mom just pick up the phone

my phone hang up. I’m gonna follow my emails. I got to use the phone. I’m gonna follow Ma Ma on a phone

Mikko Miller 48:08
Yeah, so so so so baby you’re gonna you’re gonna come over baby.

Calvin Tilokee 48:12
Exactly, exactly. Exactly. Like like this girl and you know spitting as we gave them girls. Exactly. Like Yeah, good.

Listen, you know if I was doing some shit like that my dad picked up like Yo, yo, you’ve been going for half an hour if you got the number yet

she coming over yet? He got get off the phone. I got shit to do. I just put you put you on blast over the phone.

Yeah, half hour limit to

set up your plans? If not, I got close to be Yeah, imagine your dad just be like, yeah, getting on get off the phone.

Mikko Miller 48:54
I can see that. I can see that shit.

Oh, man, I brother who you got we got? Yeah, so I’ve got I’ve got a I got a doozy this week, man is a little bit of a two part. Also a little bit of a throwback for for some of our loyal listeners. So um,

Calvin Tilokee 49:13
this week, my get off my lawn is just toxic masculinity as a broad topic.

Okay, this is something that that that came up.

I came up in a in a previous episode because I was once called a pussy for not driving in the snow to go to work. Now, those of you who know my background, I work in revenue management, right? As long as I got a laptop and Wi Fi. I can do this shit anywhere. Right? So if you tell me you raise your hand anybody out there if they gave you the option to not go to work and do it from home, you will go to work.

Of course. Right? But those of you who may be new didn’t hate a story. I was working in place and

snowstorm I worked from home that day, the following day, I came in for my female VP to tell me that I was a pussy for not driving to work. And you know, her husband, you know, just got in his truck, and they drove to work that it was good for him. Right. Now, when I told that story in a previous episode, I forgot a key part, which would have really drove the point home. So this same husband, who drives into snow and you know, drives his SUV and he’s, you know, Mr. Tough guy doesn’t allow her. That’s right. I use the word allow. It doesn’t allow her to work in the same company as he does. Because she will outshine him.

Right? She’s better at the job than he is they do the exact same work. And she’s better than he is. She’s a VP. He is not. Others leave it at that. And he doesn’t allow her to work at the same place because he doesn’t want to be out shined. But he’s the tough guy. I’m rubbish, apparently. Right. Okay. So any women out there who might think it’s cool to call the guy a pussy, because you know, you don’t want to drive in the snow or he puts on a jacket when it’s 30 degrees, and all this other stupid shit that that certain men think is that’s what makes you a man. That’s what makes you tough. Keep that same energy when those men are holding you back in your career. Right. So any women think it’s cool to call men that shit. Cool, but I don’t want to hear you talking about women’s empowerment. I don’t want to hear you talking about a wage gap. I don’t think he talked about none of that shit. Keep that same match because it’s those same motherfuckers who keep you back. Right. But the second part I that’s like the that’s like the preface. That’s the intro to my thing. Because my issue is with this whole toxic masculinity thing is a lot of men just have a warped vision of what being tough is or what being a man is like, this dumb shit drive in the snow you go outside when it’s cold and data. Okay, cool, bro. You know what they want makes you a fucking man. How about pick up the phone and call somebody? Somebody else too much of a bitch do that. So over the course of the past year, since I’ve started my own business, right, obviously, I have left my door open to go back and go back to work if the right opportunity came along. And you know what a lot I’ve I’ve had a few, a few instances where it came through like a network through people I know. Right? So uh, one in particular, a guy I knew for probably close to a decade now. Through work, at least at least seven years, you know, worked in the same company, you know, a lot of the same people, whatever. I had an interview with him for position, right? Turns out, I didn’t get it. Because it wasn’t just his decision, right. But he’s the one that I’m supposed to follow up with. I’ve called this guy. I’ve texted him. I’ve emailed him. You know, he can’t even respond to any of these. to just say, Hey, bro, listen, you know what, we went another direction?

Right? You can’t pick up the phone to do that. But you tough your man. You know what? You want to be a fucking man handle shit like that. Okay, yeah, handle shit like that. grow some balls, and pick up the phone, get a backbone and to say, listen, bro, this is the situation. You know what I mean? And some people out they may be like, Oh, well, you know, that’s hard to do. I did it. Yep, I had an employee. I had an employee that I passed them over for a position. I actually he was in a position temporarily. And he wasn’t good enough. I hired somebody from outside. He came to me. And you know, we both black so he came to me on this leg, yo, you my brother kind of shit? and was like, Hey, you know, bad like, I know, it wasn’t. It was really HR. If it was up to you, I would have had the job. And I could have took that out. Most people would have took that out. Most people would have said yeah, that wasn’t on me data. I actually told him I said No, you know what, man? It was me. I made a decision. Because of XYZ. Because like going back to what I said earlier, I want people to do better. You can’t do better if you don’t know how you fucked up. Exactly, you know. And as anticipated, he took it he didn’t take it right. And then he had beef with me. But you know what, that was a risk I was willing to take because I’m a fucking man. That’s why Okay, so all y’all out there who think you know, because you you don’t put snow tires on your whip or you got you know, you ride you know, three inches of snow when you’re in your motorcycle with no shirt on. You’re not tough. Okay? Right. Pick up a goddamn phone and have some have some backbone have some real principles of buy in life and do some shit. Okay, then impress me. I didn’t

bribe me to Eddie Murphy would like Stevie Wonder. It’s like, singing this shit. Don’t want to praise me. You want to praise me take the wheel for whatever the fuck

shit. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, right, Steve, you’re running to a treat. Haha very funny.

Mikko Miller 55:27
Funny we got to start adding Eddie Murphy jokes, man. She’s hilarious. For sure. But yeah, it’s true. I think

bravado is one thing and you don’t have to be a fucking man to be, you know, this big ol macho guy but having the balls to

take an uncomfortable situation

and giving the other person that respect to making that phone call to just let him know hey, you know, you know sorry, but we went another way.

That’s harder to do and you’re right. I would respect you more as a man

if you lay that out to me straight up

versus doing any other thing because then I know at least you respected me enough to give me that phone call. You know what I mean? Yeah, uncomfortable situations make like like bitches sorry. Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 56:18
No, you’re right. Right. But again, you know then these the same officers want to walk around talking about tough or stupid shit. Like, like, like a brought up you know? Oh, am I just eat this jalapeno pepper and not drink? None, you know? Yeah. Okay, dude. Yeah, well, how about the next time you need to be an uncomfortable position? Or somebody puts you in a position or you see some shit happening? That ain’t supposed to be happening. Step up. Be Amanda. Speaker. Yeah, got a really strange concept of what manhood is. I must have just been raised if it has been how you was raised.

Mikko Miller 56:54
It’s not all about this. Or this. Yeah, or whatever. It’s just sometimes not about that. You know, like that whole men don’t wear pink or men don’t cry and just shut the fuck up with that bullshit. You know, put yourself in an uncomfortable situation and have yourself tell the truth.

See how you like Yes.

Calvin Tilokee 57:13
Exactly. Manda forgotten. Exactly. You know, when your boss starts shrinking into your belly button. Yeah. Be a man. Right? Oh, all of a sudden my phone just forgot how to email. Yeah, yeah. forgot how to text if you forgot all this shit. Obviously, you just shrinking away. And the thing is, again, it’s all business. Right? It’s all right. It’s all about relationships. And it’s such a small world and even small industry, you would think that you just in the interest of preserving these relationships, you’d be like, Hey, you know, let me make that call. Because you never know. I might need some from this dude down the road. You know what I mean? Like, we’d never burn those kind of bridges. And that’s just such a stupid way to burn a bridge.

Yeah, but hey,

hey, yo, yo, keep keep chugging beers. Keep chucking the beers and you know, family that that makes it tough. And, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold in your wife’s back in their careers because apparently that’s that’s manhood shit.

called me a bitch. Right.

Mikko Miller 58:26
So idiotic. That she’s so fucking idiotic. God, anyway.

Calvin Tilokee 58:34
Yes. All right. It’s a good way to end this one. Going into the final segment. Yes, sir. As usual, Chris Rock quote of the week.

Mikko Miller 58:48
miles, kind of funny, but not really. Where Chris Rock talks about how


got this full plane, a dramatic character and saw, right.

He’s like in the new style movie. Now. That’s gonna be strange. I mean, I know he’s been at Fargo. He’s been like kind of migrating. Yeah. Or evolve. He was good in Fargo though. Yeah. I will say that he was good at that he was believable. So maybe he’ll be good at this. I mean, I’d watch it and watch it. But um, no. He was talking about like how African Americans

how they dominated sports, and how every sport that they played, they dominate and he just had that quote where he was like, you know, African Americans dominate sports in America. They only make up 10% of the population, but 90% of the NBA or some social

so god damn true. I mean, God, I can. I think every NBA team has probably for starters that are African American

And maybe one that’s white if that

if that

NFL. I mean, there’s a little bit more parity in NFL I guess. And then, you know, taking over hockey now to I think the first round pick last year was an African American. I’m not mistaken. So yeah, so they’re, you know, no sport safe folks. No support

Calvin Tilokee 1:00:28
kings of comedy and Cedric was talking about He’s like, you know, yeah, you know, we’ve taken over all the sports, golf, basketball, tennis, hockey.

Hockey, hang on a real brothers a couple but not like Joe Joe would knock knocking them

Mikko Miller 1:00:51
No, that’s just hilarious

yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, Kings a comedy was a classic. Jeez, yeah, I need to watch that more often To be honest, I you know, I always watch Bernie Mac in that unless you I never really watched everything else. I got to rewatch it. Because I didn’t deal hugely that funny in that one. You know where he was really funny at that though, when he saw the roasted Necro that was

Calvin Tilokee 1:01:18
that was classic bro. Like he I mean obviously you know he couldn’t wrote any of that shit down like just pointing people out like that’s when he really killed it. Yeah, I’m which I don’t know about the rest of it because I can’t remember most of the rest of the jokes but when he’s got a roast of people

Mikko Miller 1:01:37
that I get props for that. I get

Calvin Tilokee 1:01:39
it for sure.

Alright, so So mine is a mine is obviously again I just moved out here so I need to get a new license right so you don’t have to go to the DMV and get a new license and you fill out the application and as your part you know, do you want to be an organ donor?

Hey Chris no one wants to be an organ donor you know organ donors with people with no faith at all. Why don’t they figure out a way to bring you back now I got

a mama back

away my eyes games a little boy in Idaho. Damn I got to go kill him again

while my


Mikko Miller 1:02:37
that’s a good one. That’s a fucking good one. Oh yeah.

That’s a fun

show him give me hearts back.

Calvin Tilokee 1:02:51
Love it. All right. Well, we back we back Episode One of season three back in the building, you know

with the homie Mikko after about a month just so you guys know longtime listeners. You know, as you would see, and know there’s there’s no more white boy in the show. Well, we’re going to show you that giveaway is affirmative action spot.

Yes, sir. ucsd has moved on to other things. So right now it’s just going to be the Kalam Mikko show going forward. So just so there was no case anybody who I happen to see, you know, yeah, I got I got

Mikko Miller 1:03:37
I got a couple of my wife’s cousins that actually listened to the show religiously. And they asked that question, so I had to, I had to let them down easy and said, you know, Steve, it moved on to bigger and better things. Yeah. So yeah, but you know, shout out to the homie when we do when we do the live show you guys uh, he’ll definitely be there. So, you know, feel

Calvin Tilokee 1:03:56
ready and available to sign autographs at that time.

Yes, but as always, this is Calvin, you can follow me on Revparblems my travel page, scotch in the suitcase, and the G spot if you can find it. Yay.

Mikko Miller 1:04:22
And this is Mikko the Filipino. You can find me on Instagram at Mikko underscore eats peace. Alright, and don’t forget, we still got the Patreon thing going for as little as $5 a month. We can get you early access to episodes, extended cuts of shows featuring behind the scenes content and the ability to send in your own. Get off my lawn. So great show this week. Next week we will be back with my friend Chris from depths of the Dark Side podcast. We’re talking about mental health. So okay, Get ready. Get ready. Send some

Calvin Tilokee 1:05:00
questions if you got him about you know, mental health therapy. He talks a lot about that on his show and we’re excited to have him in the studio with us in the man cave. As you can see actually have a little cave night you know closet or more sun. You know, I got a wall and

Mikko Miller 1:05:17
I’m still in the garage sale got shoes over well, it’s on this side

of the closet. And so yeah, but yeah, yes. Thank you for joining.

Calvin Tilokee 1:05:30
Thank you for joining us on another episode of midlife crisis podcast. Give us a follow on Instagram, at midlife crisis podcast that keep up with us in between shows. And visit us on the website midlife crisis podcast.com Get yourself submerge. We got hats comment, guys coming up. You know, so keep up with the swag. Let everybody know what your favorite podcast is. And that’s it, signing off. We’ll see you next week. catch you on the next one.

Let’s go

Calvin Tilokee 0:02
Hello and welcome to the midlife crisis podcast. I’m your host Calvin, also known as Revparblems on Instagram. I’m excited to do this talk show with my best friends from high school and college. Steven Mikko, what can you expect on this podcast? Well, I like to call it a talk show for Men of a Certain Age. We’re not quite old. But we’re the kind of guys that have to make sure we don’t miss our alcohol on a night out, you know, we’ll chat about current events, trending topics, and things that we just need to get on our soapbox about knowing us. We’ll be laughing the whole time. And ladies, don’t worry. If you ever wanted to know what your husband or boyfriend talks about in the man cave. Stick around. And now keep in mind, we’re old enough to remember when Parental Advisory stickers went on CDs. We don’t know what CDs are. You’re too young for this podcast. Speaking of which, make sure you have your headphones in. It’s NSFW as these kids say. We’ll be bringing that flavor to your weekly on your way to work while you’re shaving, or just sitting around wondering why you’re backwards. But let’s get this show on the road. Hello, and welcome to the midlife crisis podcast. I’m your host Calvin. Here as always with my boy Steven Mikko, bringing that flavor to you here on a weekly basis. We have a special treat for you this week. As we’ve uncovered and remastered our first ever podcast episode, you’ll hear us discuss our upbringing, how we propose to our wives, and the first ever get off my lawn. This show begins mid conversation with me talking about getting my ass whipped by my mom. Please enjoy. Oh, man. Yeah, that’s crazy. Yeah, I remember once getting hit with a pain stir. Because I had told you before we moved from Brooklyn to to Westchester. So needless to say life was life is a little different in those two situations, right. So Brooklyn, we had the shower is like the shower doors that are on tracks. Yeah. So you get in the shower, or you close the door so you don’t have to think about it. We moved to Westchester, there’s curtains, the shower curtains. Were sometimes a curtain outside of the tub. Yeah, I’m like, Whoa, you know, I don’t know what to do with this. So I jump in the shower. But that plastic curtain was outside the tub. Hmm.

Steve 2:08
So what are on the floor?

Calvin Tilokee 2:10
Exactly? Yeah. I didn’t know why no. exit plan again.

I’m 12 I’m not exactly responsible for these type of things happening. Like now if that were to happen, like I have those shower curtains in my apartment now. But I know if I forget to do that. I’m had to clean it up afterwards.

Mikko Miller 2:27
Right. Right. Right, right.

Calvin Tilokee 2:29
So you start to remember these things. Also, the asked weapon I got for having the floral wet is probably what makes me Never forget to do that again, at this stage of life. But yeah, that was the paints 30 we got a lot of belts. You got a belt. I remember one time getting hit with a belt or trying to get hit. And it was like, I was jumping on my bed to try to get away. So my daddy was like that. Yeah. And I’m jumping it away. It was like, oh, Western. Jump. Right. Get out of the way. But a smack. So. Yeah, yeah, you know, but listen, we all turned out fine, I think. Yeah. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. So, you know, shout out to all our parents. For the tough love. Tough Love. It was all love.

Steve 3:15
It was love you my parents were never my friends.

Mikko Miller 3:19
I mean, we’re friends.

Steve 3:21
Until I was grown up. Exactly. Thank God. There were parents, not the kind of parents that want to be your friend. Yeah, they’ll be friends with a kid. Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 3:33
Michael Jackson. That’s about it. Exactly.

Go have to edit a lot of shit.

Mikko Miller 3:45
If you if your daughter calls you, Mama, Mama, Mama. Pam. She goes. Why are you at the club? It’s Wednesday. Is it your birthday? Is it your birthday? Go home and take care of them. Kids. 20 robbed me in 10 years.

Calvin Tilokee 4:09
Oh, good. So, Steve, you mentioned that you live overseas for a while Mikko knows at some part of your upbringing. You grew up overseas as well.

Mikko Miller 4:18
Yeah, I’m born in the Philippines. Stayed so I was five. My dad joined the military at a later age in his life, stationed in Germany, lived there for seven years. Went back to the Philippines for a year. Went back to Germany for another three and then the rest of my life. I lived in Maryland where I went for high school and college. So that’s army brat. army brat been all over traveled all over Europe. He took advantage of it. And yeah, Maryland is kind of like my, my formative years was in Germany, but a lot of things that I remember was from Maryland, obviously middle school, high school, college. That’s what really like you know, grew went up in the military environment, you’re sheltered on if you guys know we’re in the army base, like, months and days at a time, we don’t venture out as much into the community. So we live with a lot of army brat and a lot of people in the military. But once we came to Maryland, it was like free for all you know, it’s like public school letting go to private school went to public school and it’s like, awesome. This is what it’s like, you know, not everyone’s so well behaved in in the military, your kids misbehave, the parents get punished, the soldier gets punished. Oh, good. So you don’t behave you know, if you’re out past curfew, you don’t get punished. Your dad gets punished and you know, your IDs could be revoked. Lose rank, there’s a lot of things that can happen to you don’t do that shit. You know, so when in Maryland, it was like, Oh, it’s like a free for all. Like, that’s my newfound freedom. And that’s kind of like what I do. I did a lot of growing up in Maryland.

Calvin Tilokee 5:51
Wow. That’s cool. That’s interesting. Interesting. And that’s one of the things I’d say about college and like those years, you know, that’s where you do least for me, that’s where I did my growing up. Really? It’s where you want to become an adult. Yeah, you got to take care of yourself. Clean a bank account?

Mikko Miller 6:13
Yep. Spending you got to spend budget, you know, 2999 for a week, nothing in the last few months, but you might ramen and you know, dollar hams and juices and you know, you don’t buy a mountain dew you buy a What’s that? A lion? mountain lion? What?

Calvin Tilokee 6:31
Cuz Yeah, the local supermarket was called food line. So they’re, they’re at home brand or whatever you want to call it. Their their white label brand was called mountain lion. Yeah. Yeah, it was a tiger and again.

Oh, man, those are good ties. Yeah, good time. So where did you live in Germany?

Mikko Miller 7:02
I lived in a place called schweinfurth. For the first tour duty. I mean, actually, no. freeburg was the first tour of duty. And then the second one was schweinfurth feet, but it was about two hours away from Frankfurt. schweinfurth was about an hour away from Frankfurt. It’s, it’s close to like the worst Berg I don’t know if you guys know that. But if you know Dirk Novitsky I think he’s coming to worse Burg area. So it’s close to where he grew up.

Calvin Tilokee 7:26
Okay. Yeah, I’ve been to Germany one time, went to Boston, Boston. Yes, as I showed where I got engaged. And then we went to Frankfurt for a few days, I think I was there for a week until it I think three or four days in Boston, Boston, then a couple in Frankfurt. And then back home.

Mikko Miller 7:45
Did you guys do those public baths in Boston, Boston, that’s what they’re known for. Right?

Calvin Tilokee 7:50
Well, the hotel we stayed at, had some of that water at the hotel. So the hotel pool and the hot tub had this water. So Boston, Boston is known for these natural thermal bats that just come out of the earth. Similar to I think we have some similar things in Yellowstone here in this country, and Canada has places like that. So that whole town is known for that. And it’s Historically, the kaisers are the kings of Germany would go to this area for vacation to relax and this was their, you know, vacations button or the better way to say it, but like a spa destination, basically. And they have these big public houses where you go in and all the water in the pools and everything is this natural thermal mineral water that’s supposed to be really good for you, you can drink it and it’s supposed to have a lot of health benefits. But mostly you swim in it and just it’s good for your skin and to seep into your pores and all that stuff. So that’s what Mikko is talking about. But this hotel we stayed at which is now a Radisson It was called the what’s called a bottle shut off. That’s that was so sick doesn’t take man

Mikko Miller 9:01
that silly me? Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 9:06
Yeah, this hotel had that running right into the into the property. So they had one of these pools where you could swim from inside outside user of the park. They had a nice little park behind it. So obviously you don’t forget that because that’s that’s where I got engaged that that was a good memories there.

Mikko Miller 9:24
How’d you do it?

Calvin Tilokee 9:27
Oh, that’s it. I have that question on the list. So we Yeah, we will go through that. That was as most things with my relationship as you probably would expect. If anybody he already knows me, it didn’t go according to plan. You know, this. There’s we Anna and I joke that we, you know, we don’t do anything romantic like this traditional romance. It’s just when we try to do things like that things. It just doesn’t work out. It’s and it started from the beginning, I would say so. I went and my wife Parents are Russian. So I needed I went I was very traditional. I wrote a letter to her sister who was bilingual. So she translated the letter for me to give to her parents and get permission, and which I did. So then I went to propose, but that night, we all we all went out to dinner. And my father in law ruin the surprise, because he starts grilling me at dinner, about like, why do you want to marry her and listen, and he doesn’t speak English. So he’s really me through her younger sister, who was maybe about 17 at the time.

Mikko Miller 10:35
Oh, damn.

Calvin Tilokee 10:37
So he starts asking me, so obviously, my wife couldn’t understand that the translation and everything and he sounds good to me like, Well, why do you love her and listen, and why do you want to get married to her? I’m like, how do you answer that question? Like, seriously? How do you answer why do you love this person? Oh, I love her because she’s five foot seven. And I love it cuz I love her. Like who she is. Right? Like, how do you explain something like that? And, anyway, the worst mistake, as if that wasn’t bad enough. I must have been nervous. not thinking straight. Whatever. My dumb ass decides to order curry.

Unknown Speaker 11:12
In German.

Calvin Tilokee 11:15
Oh, not not London. Yeah. Not India. Not even New York City. I’m in Germany. I’m in Barton, Barton, Germany, and I was like, the curry shrimp. Sounds good. So I get this curry shrimp. We go back to the hotel. And I’m like,

Unknown Speaker 11:36
running right through you.

Calvin Tilokee 11:37
Yes. Like, this is gonna be a long night. But I decide. That’s the night like the mood is right? to propose to my girl. That one that night. I figured, yeah, this is the time to do it. All the stars are aligning.

Mikko Miller 11:56
I just couldn’t wait. Oh, my God is talking to me. But

Calvin Tilokee 11:59
like, baby, something my gut was just talking to me just spoke to me that night and said, now’s the time to do it. But in all seriousness, I just couldn’t wait any more. Like I was excited to do it. So my vision was to slip it on her finger while we were sleeping. And then She’d wake up in the morning. And it’d be like the movies where she’s like, oh, teary eyed and I get down on one knee and belay Baby, you know, you want this for the rest of your life. You know, and all that stuff. I like how you put your shoulders into that one. Oh, yeah, you got to you got. You got to romance it

Mikko Miller 12:39

Calvin Tilokee 12:40
So I got the ring in the in the box under the bed. I grab it. And I’m trying to move like real quiet and slow. So I grab it, got it in my hand. She’s not moving. And I finally like slip it on her finger and then like, turn around. And I wait. And wait. Maybe 30 seconds goes by. And then all of a sudden she says you want to say something. And this is when I discovered my wife is a light sleeper. Because I kept getting up and out of bed. And then she felt me put it on her finger. She’s like, you’re gonna say something. So nice. I’m sure I stutter. I’m like, I wasn’t expecting this, right? Oh, yeah, baby, you want to? I love you and you want to like, marry me? I honestly can’t remember what I said. I can’t remember it for the life of me What? What came out after that? But she said yes. And we’re still married after 13 years. So that’s most important.

Mikko Miller 13:44
The rest is history. The rest is history.

Calvin Tilokee 13:45
That’s it. But that pretty much set the tone for our relationship. Anytime we try to do some romantic. That’s pretty much how it goes. So that’s me, I’ll get used to see.

Steve 13:59
That’s a fantastic story. Oh my god, I can just hear her saying that. So. So when. So when I asked Maria to marry me. I did the same thing. I was very traditional asked Marie’s Dad, you know, talk to her mom. I didn’t talk to her sister. And then Marie was taken me to Niagara Falls for my birthday. And so like a day before we leave, she comes down with mana. She’s like, you know, I still want to do it. I still want to take you you’ll drive most of the way. But I’ll, I’ll take it. So um, so we’re going up there and I didn’t want to propose to her on my birthday. So I waited until like, 11 o’clock. We’re both kind of up still. She’s getting kind of tired. I go, hey, what if we went for a walk? And I’m dragging this poor woman around until it’s like after just after midnight. So I don’t propose on my birthday.

Mikko Miller 15:00

Steve 15:02
exactly. And walking around the falls and we’re heading over towards the falls. And as we’re walking, I’m like, I’m holding her tight. And I noticed that there’s a couple ahead of us and they’re full on banging it out on the park that I’m passing them to what I have proposed to my wife, but this romantic, romantic moment. And so

Calvin Tilokee 15:28
romantic butts on the planet.

Steve 15:29
These guys, they they were full on boning. There’s, I mean, in to this day, she’ll say,

Mikko Miller 15:36
I never noticed I never noticed. I don’t either.

Steve 15:40
I don’t either. And so, you know, right when we got there, I looked at my watch was about five past or so. And I dropped to one knee. I asked her I held my hand up and I remember the face she made still to this day. And she her ass was up after that. It was she was calling everybody probably went probably went to bed at like two or three in the morning that night. Yeah, yeah. Had to i, whoever those two people are there forever etched in my memory as you know, as whatever, whatever was going on. It was very passionate. And there was a mon, so pretty clear. What was shaken.

Calvin Tilokee 16:20
You know, you know, we all go to Niagara Falls for for different reasons. So how long have you guys been married now?

Steve 16:28
16 years. 16 years this past July? 13.

Calvin Tilokee 16:32
Nice. Yeah. Wow. I have a feeling those three people to light there.

Mikko Miller 16:38
Yeah. This is good.

Calvin Tilokee 16:43
Yeah, yeah, we’ll make sure that edited. Because as long as you got the gift on the third. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I did that for the first few years of my marriage. Sure. Like I forgot exactly what date you got married. You think it’s a seven but I used to say the sixth? All the time. And then she she’d be looking because people would ask and she’d look at me. I’m like, What? At least I remember. We got anniversary. I mean, I’m doing remember they married.

Mikko Miller 17:13
Exactly. Anyway. Exactly.

Calvin Tilokee 17:16
So but you Mikko you gotta you gotta top those stories.

Mikko Miller 17:20
Unfortunately, I can’t. Mine’s just boring compared to you guys. I don’t have any interesting stories like you guys. We first off, I got laid off at work as I saved up for a ring. And as I saved up for the trip, you know, we live in California. We planned on a three week trip back east. She’s never been so I was gonna take it to like DC, Baltimore, and then up to New York health care pros in New York Times Square. But then I got laid off, but we still went on with a trip. You know, I took my money. We went onto the trip. You go to Times Square. Where you go eat lunch with my mom. My mom brought her sisters along because they all knew cat didn’t know. And just in the middle of Times Square, you know, I try to time it where the camera was right on us, you know, in that big O screen and dropped to one knee? I timed it perfectly. I dropped to one knee. Everyone’s looking and she said yes. I had my aunt, you know with a camera to record a moment. And she was so caught up by the moment. The proposal wasn’t even what I remembered. My aunt was supposed to be recording. And she got so caught up in the moment you put the camera down and got people’s feet. Oh, I love you. If you hear this, sorry.

Calvin Tilokee 18:34
Oh, man, you know what was so And how long have you been married now?

Mikko Miller 18:39
Only five years guys. So I started started kind of late.

Calvin Tilokee 18:43
Dude, that’s that’s that’s still a long time for most people. And I think what would I tell people once you get past the five years, you said like the warranty is expired? Yeah, neither one of you could return it at this point. So you Good.

Mikko Miller 18:57
Good. And as far as anniversaries go, I keep it to the month. It’s June. So that’s the you guys

Calvin Tilokee 19:06
that I see. Yeah, that’s a Yeah, I got set up the same way. Because our our anniversary is April 7, seven. Yeah. My wife’s birthday is the 27th Okay, okay, so April is just shot for me Gosh, like for life like so. It’s the same April I could just get a gift to gifts in the mid week of April and probably be good. There you go. Probably not. I’m probably gonna have to edit that out. But I don’t think that I don’t think it’s gonna work. So she Oh, she got me to early birthday guess but misty and crispy.

Mikko Miller 19:43
Lovely Anna.

Calvin Tilokee 19:45
It was funny. It was funny is that none of us has a normal proposal story.

Mikko Miller 19:50

Calvin Tilokee 19:51
you know, nothing goes the way you expected in the movies.

Mikko Miller 19:56
I wish it did. You know like I said like I had planned out the timing, you know? thing, but it just, it just didn’t work out that way. Like I think more people will either focused on the big screen or on us to actually be recording. So now when I’m like wanting to view how I did it, whatever is like I have to go off a memory like with everyone else. Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 20:16
That’s probably for the best. Probably maybe. I mean, we were just talking about this recently, because the hotel where we met, just closed for good. Because of Yeah, because of COVID. You know, I guess they’ve been they’ve been closed for some time and financially realized that it just wasn’t going to make sense. So they’ve closed for good. And that hotel, which is the the Hilton writedown, or the Hilton Westchester is it later became known was Yeah, it’s completely, completely closed. They just closed it last week.

Mikko Miller 20:49

Calvin Tilokee 20:50
on top of that, where we got married, we got married in Hawaii, on Molokai, which is the smallest Hawaiian island. They won’t keep going, right? Yeah, it was called the Molokai ranch that that hotel closed down about a year after we got married. So we were joking the other days, like, you know, if we ever want to go back to our monumental places, like they just don’t exist. I’m not sure if that’s what that’s supposed to mean. But we can’t go back to where we got married. And we can’t go back to where we got met. Neither one of these places exist anymore. It’s not money, right?

Mikko Miller 21:28
That’s small, apocalyptic. Sheer. Yeah.

Steve 21:31
I got to monetize that somehow.

Mikko Miller 21:34
You got it. Right. Exactly.

Calvin Tilokee 21:37
Exactly. So speaking of COVID, since that’s kind of come up in you know, the impact on that particular hotel? How is how has that been for you guys? and I, we didn’t even touch on what we all do for a living at this point. Not that it necessarily matters. But if you want people to know, but how has it impacted? your work life? Have you developed any new habits during this time? What’s up?

Mikko Miller 22:02
I’ll tackle it on let’s see, well, I work for a large HMO health care provider. So we never shut down. My department that I have have 51 people that I’m in charge of, we never shut down. So as the whole country went into lockdown, we stayed open, obviously, we handle like medical records and things like that. So we were considered essential employees. Yeah, so we stayed open, and we’re still open. Now, as certain departments and certain facilities have are shut down and go through like, you know, intermittent shutdowns and intermittent closings, we remained open. We try to stay diligent with, you know, social distancing, and wearing masks and gloves and try to, you know, space each other out as much as we can. But it’s rough because you don’t know what these people do. Even me, they don’t know what I do outside of work at work, we try to be safe, you know, but outside of work, people can take off mask and go wherever the heck they want to do but at work to have this. You know, like a policy where you keep your mask on you stay away, you don’t sneeze in front of other people. But it doesn’t mean you’re not bringing it in. So, but as far as habits that I’ve developed, doing COVID my wife and I, I think you’ve developed the habit of enjoying Uber Eats. food delivery is like, awesome. It’s like, I don’t know why it wasn’t invented before. But that’s kind of like a habit. Not necessarily a good habit that we develop. But you know, we love Postmates Uber Eats us want to sponsor us. Let’s definitely use your services like every day, almost every day. Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 23:45
Hey, nothing wrong with that, man.

Mikko Miller 23:46
Got he

Calvin Tilokee 23:47
got restaurants gotta make money.

Mikko Miller 23:50
That’s true. That’s true. Everything’s takeout nowadays, so.

Calvin Tilokee 23:53
Yeah. Yeah.

Steve 23:56
So, I, so I worked for a software company, and I work with, you know, pretty large. I consultants, so that software to pretty large companies, and I’ve always worked out in my house. So you know, when COVID hit, it wasn’t, it wasn’t a big deal for me. workwise um, you know, from my day to day, I mean, it disrupted a lot of my customers and I’ve had to work through that but the only thing that the only thing that’s changed for me from a work life balances. Now I have my daughter and my wife with me all the time. And prior to us moving in to this house where we are now we were doing this out of you know, small to small two bedroom and it was got hairy a couple times but you know, all in all, now that we’re in this house, it’s it’s a lot easier that we can just kind of spread out. Yeah. But from a you know, how it’s you know, a funny way in which it’s in which it’s impacting us is that we are, you’re more, you’re a lot more careful about who you go with, who you see, you know, you’re very upfront about asking them what they do, you know, what they, you know, what do you do? What do you not what you do, but what you what I meant to say was? Um, have you come in contact with or are you wearing a mask? You know, we’re much more diligent about that stuff. And we’ve, you know, a few times we’ve invited some people over then they’ve been they’ve had to back out because they, you know, came in contact with someone, nom and, and we’ve even said, hey, look, I I saw my, you know, I saw so and so yesterday, I’m not, you know, I don’t know what their situation is. Enough. So I’m going to kind of keep to myself for the next two weeks. And I will say I Well, we don’t do a micos food delivery. We do. I have. I have come to really enjoy wine from Costco. And I have zero shaman in in in saying that I really enjoy it.

Calvin Tilokee 26:13

Steve 26:13
So, you know, you know, shoot every, you know, every other night. It’s what kind of wine from Costco Do you want to pop? And that’s, that’s what’s changed with us right now. What

Calvin Tilokee 26:25
kind of wine Do you get at Costco?

Steve 26:27
So, if I, if I point the camera off to my right, you’ll see that there is a name of a vo ha no walbeck and Alexander Valley cab, and I’ll tell you what. It’s so damn good. I mean, it’s just, it’s crazy. Nice. And, and I’ve actually I mean, I like wine I’ve had. I’ve had very, very good wine. I just I know what I like and I know what I’m willing to pay for it. And for the price it’s can’t be

Calvin Tilokee 27:05
Yeah, yeah. I know. A big thing out here is people go to Trader Joe’s for wine. Apparently they have they have cheap wine. It’s supposed to be pretty good. That’s that’s a spot for the for the young kids. Yeah, I don’t do wine anymore. I’ve discovered that me and wine do not agree. How come? I think is the sulfites. Okay, I believe that’s what it is. That messes me up. And Funny enough, I discovered this. When we went to Napa Valley went to wine country last year. And you going around and doing different tastings all day. And I just realized by the end of the day, like I just felt really rundown and weird every single day. And then so I thought I’d have more water, like do a little tasting have more water and I read Okay, maybe with wine, I just need to hydrate more than I do when I drink other types of alcohol. But it’s still, I just wouldn’t feel right. So I think it was our anniversary last year. So we went with the Napa Valley in March. And again, April is our anniversary. So then for our anniversary, we went out and we went to john George, which is like fancy, you know, fine dining. And it was my wife and I think we split two bottles of wine. So I didn’t feel drunk. I just felt very full, like a balloon just like completely, like I was about to pop. And I get home and I’m like, Oh man, I just got to take a shower. I’ll go straight to bed. And I lay there for a while and then realize you know, something got happening. Something is this is not going to work out well. And the best way I could describe it is if you took a full stuff that burrito like from Chipotle, I like to ask and fill it as packet as tight as possible. And then just squeeze it in the middle. It was coming out. That’s Yeah, yeah. And so we’re gonna call episode one. cow’s gastrointestinal issues.

I thought maybe it was something I ate. Yeah, so Oh, man. You know, I had fog rot at night. And I was like, maybe the food was just too rich because I just feel really, really heavy. until October of last year, we went to Barcelona and I had a couple of glasses of Kava, it really wasn’t a lot. And the exact same thing happened. And I said it’s wine. It has to be wine like it just doesn’t agree with me. Now I could drink whiskey all night and be fun. I can drink a lot of different types of alcohol but wine for some reason. It just doesn’t. Doesn’t vibe anymore. So there’s that okay. It’s nothing to do with Coke. By just as far as me with COVID, as you guys know, I’ve worked in hospitality and have for almost 20 years, spent most of that time doing revenue management for hotels. And my the hotel I was at around mid March started to feel the impact of COVID. And you could see people starting to really cancel. And eventually, at first, it was just, Hey, you guys can start working from home because, you know, it’s safer. So we started working from home from about the middle of March, and then late April, my hotel closed. And then it hasn’t reopened to my knowledge. And this is since April. And I don’t know what the impact of that’s going to be market wise and everything. But as far as us haven’t been home since mid March, and just in an apartment for you know, four plus months, we’ve learned to appreciate getting outside. I think that’s been the most important thing. Yeah, what we would do is just kind of end our day with with a walk around the neighborhood. And eventually, it’s all in all is about three miles, but we’d make sure five 530 end of the day, hey, let’s pack up, go for a walk, come back, if we have to work we have to work when we come back, because it was really crazy in the beginning for both of us. But yeah, we really got into walking and we’ve started hiking on the weekends. Now, I had to pay a fresh Tim’s that I never wore, because I go to work like Well, you can’t wait Tim’s to work, right. So now they’re hiking boots, I wear those to go hiking, you know, we’ve done quite a few trails around and discovered things that we didn’t even know, existed around here. So that’s been really good. And I think it really started to appreciate getting out in nature and how much better you feel when you do that. Yeah, just just being out around the trees and fresh air and just walking around for an hour or so every day really, really helps. And that’s been I think the main thing that made them for us is exercise. And I’ve finally got consistent with exercising my gym has been doing virtual classes throughout the whole time. So I’ve been my working out, throw a little yoga mat down in my bedroom and knock out some high intensity workout for you know, 45 minutes. And it’s it’s been the mental effects of that that have had been more most important. You know, I’ve not really changing or losing weight or anything like that. But mentally I realized very early on, if I didn’t work out or go for a walk, I was in a foul mood. I just didn’t feel good. So I’ve realized now the importance people talk about the endorphins and working out makes you feel good and gives you energy now I know what they’re actually talking about, because it really is helped change their mindset. So I’d say that’s the biggest thing for me.

Steve 32:50
That’s fantastic. You know, one of the upsides for me being here is, you know, our daughter’s not going to daycare. And so I get to snipe, you know, a ton of time with her. And and it’s it’s one of the bright spots of the whole thing for me at least.

Calvin Tilokee 33:06
Yeah, well, that’s good. I mean, you get to spend a lot of time with her. Yeah, time you may not otherwise have been able to get.

Steve 33:13
And it’s time that she spends with a stranger who, you know, really spends more time, you know, with her than I do. You know, when when she would go to daycare, right? I hear walking around upstairs, I think she’s going to be a surprise.

Calvin Tilokee 33:30
Surprise, surprise.

Steve 33:33
Yeah. Whenever she surprises me at work, I always just refer refer to her as my intern.

Mikko Miller 33:39

Steve 33:40
I have found that, you know, people have been a lot more accommodating, not accommodating, but just

Mikko Miller 33:47
were something maybe what’s that receptive, now

Steve 33:51
receptive and understanding their overall just more understanding that you know, you’re working from home. So if the dogs barking in the background or some kid, you know, if your interns got to have sliced bananas, you know, you just got to do with

Calvin Tilokee 34:08
the peanut butter.

Mikko Miller 34:09
Yeah, and that’s what I tried some a wife, my wife works from home. She’s a nurse. She used to work in floors, but now she’s working from home. And so it’s a big adjustment for her. So for the first I think four months of COVID I think she went out once and you know, I still go out to work. I still you know, outside so like I don’t feel the effects the same way she does, but she did say the same thing. It’s like going out exactly what Calvin said. Being able to just go out and walk around catch them. sunrays, actually like elevates her mood and the fact that you know, just to be able to just catch fresh air I guess I take advantage of I didn’t realize how much of a disadvantage It was hard to work from home because I mean, you got it easy. You wake up, you know, go straight to work. But just the simple fact of being able to go outside and catch some fresh air and you know see other people and talk to other people intermingle with other people. Like, I just failed to realize that early on that, you know, she probably misses that stuff because you know, she was a bedside nurse for like damn near 20 years. And then now she’s working in it’s like, they do like a telehealth. So it’s all, you know, telephonic. So she does that from home. 24 seven, pretty much.

Steve 35:22

Mikko Miller 35:23
I’m not really but you know, her shifts are long, but you know, he gets up early to prepare and then afterwards he does like the notes and stuff. So she’s just home all day. Then I come home and it’s like, dinner. big piece of chicken, you know. Give me a lot of Chris Rock references. Oh, yeah. Great. Yeah.

Steve 35:45
It’s fair to reference that.

Calvin Tilokee 35:46
That one that was a good one. Yeah, that’s it. They didn’t kiss me who’s Chris Rock? Is he like, Kevin Hart? Doesn’t? You know what?

Mikko Miller 35:54
Let’s not start that discussion, man.

Calvin Tilokee 35:55
What do I know? We got a couple minutes left.

Steve 36:00
If you don’t know who Chris Rock is crawl out from under your rock and go see anything by Chris Rock.

Mikko Miller 36:08
Bigger, blacker bringing the pain what’s the new one? What’s the newest? tambourine? tambourine there’s one more before that though. The one that you saw one. Did you watch one carbon?

Calvin Tilokee 36:23
Chris I saw him live he would think he was filming tambourine.

Mikko Miller 36:27
What was the tambourine? Yeah,

Calvin Tilokee 36:28
yeah, that’s what he was doing that with he was funny still funny as hell man. He’s he’s not bring the pain funny, like back in those days. I mean, that is to me is the ultimate like Chris Rock is my favorite. He’s my favorite comedian. I don’t think he’s the best right now. I think Chappelle is by far the best comedian

Chappelle is the best to his his jokes and the way he brings socio economic things together and does it in a way where it’s not really offensive unless you’re just one of those people who gets offended by things. But level he does it Yeah, he does it in such a smooth way that he’s he’s a next level genius. But Chris Rock is just my favorite. This is somebody his delivery and his type of jokes that had always jive with me like he’s always been hilarious.

Mikko Miller 37:17
Yeah, it’s his face. It’s his hands is ready can tell his jokes. Sorry, Chris.

Calvin Tilokee 37:25
I seem you should have killed it. But

Steve 37:31
I like jelly.

Mikko Miller 37:34
Prefer syrup.

Steve 37:35
I don’t think I need to go much more into that one.

Calvin Tilokee 37:42
That was a good segue into our final segment. For tonight. We’re going to start off with something called Get off my lawn. When you young whippersnappers think you got everything figured out. And y’all just need to get off my lawn with that stuff. Oh, so I want to start I’ll start this one. Because I just get tired of people today. Especially these kids that think they invented everything. They think that what they like, has to be the best, like nothing existed before. They started paying attention to stuff. You know, like Drake is the greatest rapper of all time. Don’t get me started. Don’t get me started because we’re going to lose all day for another day.

Mikko Miller 38:23
Because no, yeah. No,

Calvin Tilokee 38:26
you know, LeBron James, best basketball player to ever have existed. Really?

Mikko Miller 38:31
Oh, touchy subject right there. touchy? Oh, no.

Calvin Tilokee 38:36
I mean, we got we got somebody from Ohio on eso. Oh, man, you may have something to say. But

Steve 38:43
you can’t compare their different players they had. It’s just different. It’s like saying Tiger Woods. And jack Nicklaus. You know, from a golf standpoint, you know, there’s just more technology available now that that makes them better athletes, but I think putting the two of them up against each other in their prime.

Mikko Miller 39:01
I don’t know.

Steve 39:04
I’d say Jordan would take him in his prime in his like, UNC days. I think he would he would take LeBron.

Calvin Tilokee 39:11
Let’s see the thing with that is I don’t think it’s not. It’s not a one on one type of thing. Because I know, I know. It’s, well, yeah, I mean, it’s their greatness as to what they’ve accomplished in the game. But, I mean, LeBron is what six nine, like 280, or whatever. I mean, he’s a linebacker, I mean, physically, yes, he’s way more gifted than Jordan. If this was any other player you were talking about who was Jordan sighs you’d say LeBron to take them. But just because of Jordans mentality. I think that’s what separates him from everyone else who’s ever played that sport, and probably most other sports, if you’ve watched the last dance, and you still think LeBron is better. And it’s not even a discussion to you that we can have a conversation like we I mean, as committed As Jordan was to being the best basketball player ever, that’s all he was focused on. Yeah, you know, he did. I just didn’t think about anything else. By comparison, LeBron is involved in a lot of different things, which is not necessarily a bad thing. I’m not saying it’s bad. But Jordan never focus on anything else. But basketball, which is what made him so damn good. And he elevated teams to levels that have never been been seen before. You know, LeBron talks about, you know, people talk about LeBron playing with, you know, boobie Gibson and those guys and bring it up to the finals, which is a ridiculous accomplishment. Yeah, when you think about it, but he never created a Pippin. like nobody thinks Scottie Pippen was going to be top 50 player of all time without Jordan, right? Like, that would have never happened. You know, LeBron hasn’t done that. For anybody, the guys he’s won with have already been stars. Good point, you know, true, true, true. But that’s me, I’m out. I’m gonna go back into house and I let these kids do what they got doing wrong, because my other one

Mikko Miller 41:06
I’m just gonna chime in on that real quick, just real quick chime in on that. I think the closest and this is, I think me and not just because I live in LA, the closest that someone has ever come to that type of killer mentality, in my opinion has always been Kobe Bryant. He may not have been as gifted, he may not have elevated his teams to the level that Michael did, but that mentality of I’m just gonna kill you every single night. I think Kobe had that Kobe had that in them. And, you know, LeBron, Kobe, Mike, I wish I would have a shirt where they’re all three of them were like on like holding each other. I wish it would have wore that shirt. But mentality wise, I think Michael Colby were like, a&b, in my opinion, that’s just, you know,

Calvin Tilokee 41:50
I agree. And I’ll just jump on that point real quick. There’s a book I listened to a couple years ago called relentless by Tim Grover, who was the trainer for he also trained Coby and Wade, and if you listen to that book, he talks about the mentalities of all of these different guys, and how there’s, there’s different levels to it. And he he specifically says that lebrons not quite there. He’s not quite on that level. This is not an insult. Right. I think that’s what people get, get. get it twisted resale. He’s not the greatest of all time, then they get offended. Like you’re somehow insulting LeBron James, to say that he’s not the greatest human being to ever be good in that profession is not an insult. He’s in the conversation. Right? But isn’t we’re not saying Brian is garbage by any means. But to Mikko point about the mentality like that thing, where Jordan was just not going to lose six and o in the finals. He just was not having it. He just was not having any any slack in front from from his teammates, and take take with LeBron and that famous meme now when jr Smith, right with J. Smith wasn’t paying attention to the clock or whatever, that would have never been allowed to do that. That’s not going to happen. You know, you get into a fistfight, like you did with Steve Kerr. But listen to that book, if I would suggest anybody, it’s there’s a great book period for, for your mentality and just how to go about being great at anything. But this is somebody who’s trained some of the greatest basketball players we’ve known. And I think you should take his word for it. Yet, I’ll leave it at that. But yeah, back back to back to you.

Mikko Miller 43:37
on mine, as far as this generation goes, and, you know, I’ve grown accustomed to a lot of millennials living in California and having that type of mindset and that sense of entitlement. I think it kind of piggybacks off of your point, a lot of the millennials that I come across have this sense of entitlement where they just, they felt like everything is deserving. For them, they deserve everything. And, you know, we’ve gone through, I’m pretty sure all three of us, you know, hard work being beat our parent, not beat but you know, being disciplined by our parents, and having to work for what we’ve got and not been given everything that we’ve had. And these people just expect, you know, the whole world of people that come across in the workplace that feel like, Oh, my sick time is my time. You know, it’s for me whenever I want to use it, you know, I’m going to call out and not come to work and give you a call five minutes before my shift and think it’s okay. Because it’s, you know, it’s my right, it’s my time off and it’s like, how do you grew up with that mentality of just thinking everything was meant for you and you’re supposed to take advantage of everything because it’s there. In I think that’s just one of the things that I just can’t stand from millennials and people consider us moving because we’re like, kinda like in between that town that border. Yeah. Yeah, but do you Young uns that come across and just feel like everything is should be there and it belongs to them. And all these rights are for them, and they have to take advantage of it just like, if you can see me just just to see that it’s not work, work for it, show me some respect work for and respect you, but don’t expect things to be given to you.

Calvin Tilokee 45:19
Right? I hear that man.

Steve 45:23
So, you know, in what I prepared for this was was, you know, something similar to what Mikko saying, you know, I work with a lot of younger people who are coming into my profession. And you, it’s easy to say, Oh, he’s, you know, he does, he does this for a living, it’s, it’s, it looks super easy. And then, you know, he, he gets a lot of accolades, or, you know, someone gets accolades, not saying I get accolades, but someone gets accolades. And then oh, I want to go do that. That That just seems, seems easy.

Mikko Miller 46:02

Steve 46:04
you know, I’ve had, I’ve had a couple of people contact me about jobs, and they’re asking me all these questions about these jobs. And I’m like, dude, you are not qualified whatsoever to do this job. Why are you trying to skip steps? A, B, C, D, E, F, go right down the alphabet. You know, to everyone’s point here, you need to put in work. And yeah, that’s so I’m, I’m, I’m really over that. It’s something I would like to see. Just more. Yeah, just more hard work, work put in and then you can always tell when someone’s coming at you. Who has some bike by by, you know, luck or whatever. They’re in a, somewhat of a position similar to you. And they’re like, you didn’t put in any work? Man, you just you just got here. Rather you bump you up in fire you. I’m going to get off my soapbox. I can go on a pretty long tangent of that one. But I see that enough. And it’s a Yeah.

Calvin Tilokee 47:06
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, we definitely sound like, you know, middle aged men. So yeah, I think I think we’ve, we’ve hit home, the theme of the podcast and Episode One was definitely, yeah, I’m sure we’ll we’ll touch on that topic as we move forward, because that’s something I’ve seen quite a bit of. And I’ve also seen it from people older than us. And that’s the thing. So we’re not here to bash millennials. You know, I think that I think that they get a bad rap. I think and I’ll say this story really quick, as we’re wrapping up, but I went to a conference a few years ago, and they talk about how the millennials are really broken up into two different categories. And the older ones like us, like we’re kind of on the very tail end, depending on what study you look at. But like the the 30, fives and up, Millennials have more of older school mentality of you still need to work for it. It’s the younger half. And of course, this is generalizations, that doesn’t mean anybody under 35 doesn’t work for stuff, but they’re the ones that more had this mentality of Hey, just show up and do it. But I remember a hotel I was working at was taken over a change management companies. And this woman who was 40 at the time, and this is seven years ago, woman’s gonna be close to 50. Now what and she had two kids at the time, was complaining because the new management company made a mistake, and she lost half an hour of PTO time. Half an hour. She went on a rant about this. I was like, are you? Are you serious right now? Oh, and the new companies are giving us Presidents Day Off. We used to have presidents they really would have fuck celebrates Presidents Day,

Mikko Miller 48:48
what do you do? Buy a mattress? What are you so excited by Presidents Day for?

Calvin Tilokee 48:53
Give me a break?

Mikko Miller 48:55

Calvin Tilokee 48:56
So you do see that? Kind of across the board with, you know, the age brackets, but I’m sure we’ll talk about that a lot, because I think we have that in common. And that’s going to be something that we discuss. So I think that’s a great place to wrap up for episode one. Thank you for taking that trip down memory lane with us. We can’t believe it’s been over six months since we recorded that episode. And as you can tell, we were pretty amazing right out of the gate. Since then, we’ve seen over 2000 downloads and that’s thanks to all of you guys. So thank you for your support. And there’s lots more where that came from. If you enjoyed today’s episode, please leave us a review on iTunes and you make it a shout out live on air. Speaking of being on air, you can become part of the show by supporting us on Patreon. You’re gotcha highlights members, you got your mid-life members and you got your low-life members. For as little as $5 a month you can get early access to episodes, extended cuts featuring behind-the-scenes content, and the ability to send in your own audio for get off my lawn. Hit the link in our show notes to get a life keep up with us in between shows on Instagram at midlife crisis podcast, show notes for this, and all episodes are available on midlife crisis podcast comm where you can sign up for our mailing list and get a discount off the merchandise. Thanks for tuning in, and we’ll catch you on the next one.

Mikko Miller 50:16
Let’s go